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Headstone
[edit]It doesn't read "Dúirt me leat go raibh mé breoite" any more. It used to according to images found on Google, but since Shelagh's name was added it now reads "Dúirt me leat go mé breoite". I have no Irish at all, so I don't know if that makes any difference (Google translate tells me it does not). What puzzles me is that I can't find anything online that references the different wording. Deadlock (talk) 00:55, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Four days ago, I had the temerity to add this same observation about the Irish inscription. It was summarily deleted as "unsourced opinion". The original 7 words “Dúirt mé leat go raibh mé breoite” translate word by word as “Told I you that was I ill”, but the new inscription has missed out the word "raibh" (“was”), so it’s “Told I you that I ill”, or in English “‘I told you I ill”. A fact at least worthy of a mention, no? The original headstone is here, for example. GeiknarF (talk) 09:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- You added it in a form that implied that you were passing comment upon the accuracy of the article content, which goes against the policy on neutrality. Such comments do not belong in the article, but here on the talk page. I don't speak Gaelic, and I doubt that the majority of our readers do either - this is the English Wikipedia (a separate Gaelic Wikipedia does exist), so for matters of accuracy concerning Gaelic-language text, we really do need an authoritative third-party reliable source that explicitly describes the apparent error, in accordance with the policy on verifiability. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- See ga:Plé:Spike Milligan#Headstone
- Authoritative enough for you? GeiknarF (talk) 08:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- I asked for
an authoritative third-party reliable source that explicitly describes the apparent error, in accordance with the policy on verifiability
, not a pointer to a discussion on another wiki. If Kevin Scannell (talk · contribs) is in possession of such a source, perhaps they could amend our Spike Milligan article, respecting our core content policies of veifiability, no original research and neutral point of view. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:50, 16 October 2024 (UTC)- https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Milligan is the current Irish Wikipedia arfticle. You can get Google to misTranslate it. It shows the two photos of the headstone: "Figure 1 ... 2008" and "Figure 2 ... 2019, with a mistake in Irish". GeiknarF (talk) 10:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- That would still go against the policy on original research. Where is the authoritative third-party reliable source that explicitly describes the apparent error, in accordance with the policy on verifiability? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Milligan is the current Irish Wikipedia arfticle. You can get Google to misTranslate it. It shows the two photos of the headstone: "Figure 1 ... 2008" and "Figure 2 ... 2019, with a mistake in Irish". GeiknarF (talk) 10:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I asked for
- You added it in a form that implied that you were passing comment upon the accuracy of the article content, which goes against the policy on neutrality. Such comments do not belong in the article, but here on the talk page. I don't speak Gaelic, and I doubt that the majority of our readers do either - this is the English Wikipedia (a separate Gaelic Wikipedia does exist), so for matters of accuracy concerning Gaelic-language text, we really do need an authoritative third-party reliable source that explicitly describes the apparent error, in accordance with the policy on verifiability. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Infobox for spouse
[edit]What's the format for the end of the third marriage in the inbox. Survived by Shelagh who died in 2011. Thanks S C Cheese (talk) 08:40, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Goon Show 1968 - Thames 'pilot'?
[edit]I have tried to find a citation to support that this show was a pilot but have been unable to. The Goon Show Companion (ISBN: 9780722191828) lists this single episode and makes no reference that it is a pilot. The Goons: The Story (ISBN: 9780753505298) interviews the producer Peter Eton who says nothing about the show being a pilot, and also says he was unable to get an original script out of Milligan, which may suggest that there was no plan for further episodes. I have checked three biography's of Milligan and none of them mention the show at all. I would also note that neither the Goon Show page or Goon Show episode page on Wikipedia list the episode as a pilot either.
I suggest this reference to the episode being a pilot is safe to remove. Herbert-kavan (talk) 18:47, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BlueMoonset talk 18:14, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
Article has been blanked by nominator; closing as unsuccessful
- ... that Jack Hobbs is "remembered for having a shit"? Source: https://www.comedy.co.uk/features/comedy_chronicles/jack-hobbs/
- ALT1: ... that Jack Hobbs is remembered for a bout of explosive diarrhoea? Source: see ALT0
- ALT2: ... that Jack Hobbs once walked home wearing a "smart sky-blue tie, white shirt and nut-brown tweed jacket, with a pair of fluffy little pink legs whirring away underneath"? Source: see ALT0
- ALT3: ... that "being remembered for having a shit is a far, far, better thing than being remembered for being one"? Source: see ALT0
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chinese sanctions
- Comment: I had a lot of fun writing this.
Launchballer 20:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC).
New enough, source checks out, looks good. Earwig returns 80% chance of copyright violation, but this seems to mainly come from quotes and lists of works. Hook is obviosuly very good; I prefer alt1 ("remembered for a bout of explosive diarrhoea"). IanTEB (talk) 21:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Why is there only one reference? Articles need multiple reliable sources to show notability. SL93 (talk) 01:10, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Because the subject died in 1993 and most of his coverage predates the internet. I've had a look through Google Books and added two more, including one McCann almost certainly used.--Launchballer 06:52, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
@Launchballer, IanTEB, and SL93: - I've reviewed this in the Queue, and unfortunately I don't believe this article is compliant with copyright policy. The body of the article is almost entirely reliant on one source (which also flags a "violation suspected" at Earwig) which means it's pretty much inevitably a close paraphrasing of that source; I've tagged it as such. I see the point above about limited sources, but that's always the case for pre-internet topics and doesn't particularly exempt it from those tags. Unless it's shown that I'm mistaken, I don't think there's much future in this nomination, and probably the article needs to be trimmed down significantly to eliminated the copyvios too. Cheers and sorry about this... — Amakuru (talk) 13:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- I strongly suspect that to fix this would require visiting one or more libraries, which I don't have the energy for right now (I've been meaning to visit various libraries for James Marriott (judge) and for a potential article on Wile E. Coyote for months now), and as I would like to reduce the amount on my plate I have BLARed the article. I will come back to this, via GA, when I am able to.--Launchballer 12:27, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
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